Additionally, Colony Collapse Disorder is down 27 percent compared to numbers in 2016. NO beekeeper wants the bees in their hive to move on. I have even heard people say that the Flow Hive plastic tends to be received better by the bees since they are not completely filled and the bees add their wax over the frames better than a traditional plastic foundation. If the article is all you say, how come Maryam asked Flow Hive inventers for their views/comnents/response, which they sent her and she said ‘I haven’t had time to read it, or publish it’ That was over 6 months ago. Just a matter of materials and time. From old tyres to concrete structures. The frames are made from BPA-free and bisphenol-S-free, food grade, plastic. You mentioned “…fell for a gimic.” Do you feel the Flo Hive is a gimic or do you like it? I have seen plenty of videos where the bees accept the flow frames without a fuss. bees don’t communicate very well in the honey super whether it’s plastic or was regardless. Many homeowners are interested in being a larger part of how they obtain their food but obviously most can’t have bees the traditional way. I cannot take the chance of “communing with the bees” that closely. Much more than they can consume. H O W S L O W S H O U L D I H A V E G O N E. More hives by more people means more locations for bees to live, and more people will be concerned about planting more flowering plants and using fewer pesticides. Doesn’t sound very good from another viewpoint, yeah? Come on, it’s fast food honey that cuts corners. But instead of working with the wax comb they’ve created, the Flow Hive forces bees to deal with hormone-disrupting plastics that off-gas. Its may have its pros and cons,i see no problem with increasing the number of hives even without supervising and knowing anything about bees.its just like adding beehives into the wild only difderence is the habitat is dwindling away and being replaced by hives in urban areas.this will improve bee populations,after all who monitors health of bees that live in the wild.the bonus will be more bees and the keeper who is clueless gets some honey for his or her troubles i see nothing wrong.i do adore the purists but how many purists can we have to make a significant rise in bee population? You really failed to give a single not to buy this technology. From what i can see here is jealousy and your looking for every conceavable avenue to discredit someone. All of it, however, was in quotes. Are you kidding me…do you really believe that the majority of people want to “help bees”? This is a first generation of a new idea for collection only. I think this invention may increase the amount of beekeepers – because it seems doable for “bee wimps” like me. If you are interested in bees then do a course and give it a go. The brood cells are in the bottom and are left alone. Just to remind you, many vegans for example fruitarians, eat the fruit after it falls from the tree. 3. People buying 60,000 vehicles and imagine the payments they are making when they could have bought land or down payment on college. Approach it any way you want, just all stop preaching to each other. Is it going to cause 100s of people to buy hives and not care for them and cause the collapse of beekeeping as we know it!? Like an old person complaining about cell phones vs land lines. Well, some might be less than vigilant, but what do you think happens in the wild inside of a hollow tree trunk. The brood box below is where they lay eggs, undisturbed, upper superbox is where they store honey, also undisturbed if you use flowhive. For those interested in a flow hive or any bee keeping for that matter, I would look elsewhere for an informed, objective opinion. Not having a flow hive I can only really see two problems. The statement that it also holds the history through chemical exchange is of paramount importance. “I love honey. p.s we did creamed honey today my most favorite all workers are out of honey house doing something. The products you hawk on this site are worse than the supposed plastic used in flow, and the trauma from smoking and harvesting honey traditionally is harmful to bees- far worse than flow. I too am from Michigan and would like some pointers. I want to let you know that because of your overwhelming negativity, I have decided to purchase my own flow hive. As such, they evolve and adapt over time. One brood chamber atop a brood/honey super to me sounds like the bees are going to be swarming at least once a year. I do have some questions, though, so here goes… You will still need to smoke the bees and lift the FlowHive Super (the box on top) to inspect the box below regularly for desease and pests. in the deaths of millions of bees during the honey-taking operation. The bottom box is the Brood Box with Standard timber Langstoth frames. I feel this entire article was written by resentful bee keepers which you can see with some snide remarks in the report. so finally DOES IT WORK???? I wonder if the bees would agree that the old-school method of being smoked out, their home destroyed, and their honey extracted in totality is a much more harmonizing method of “harvest”? It will create a generation of oblivious people who don’t know the delicate mechanics of the beautiful hive.” Which by the way I am the last one scared to be stung by a bee. The manufactures have assured us that it’s not only BPA-free, but it is not manufactured withbisphenol-S or any other bisphenol compounds. To complete the picture of me I just turned 61, not a bad accomplishment by an Old Short Redheaded Australian Woman. Langstroth designed more than just a box of frames; the spacing at every point of Langstroth’s hive design avoided spaces too tight for bees (which get packed with propolis) or too wide for bees (which get filled with burr comb). 4:07. 2020 Garden Variety Bees. Everything else should be the same. They answered lots of questions except for a few: Someone posted some questions I had made on their youtube channel and they ignored every single point I made. My son and wife are considering it, so they asked for my opinion being that I am an experienced beekeeper. The honey deposited is evaporated in the hive. Instead of going on the attack, why don’t you do some more research? Your points; The Brood Box HAS NO FLOWHIVE frames in it. So the main contention with this device is that because it has simplified the process it *might* open beekeeping up for abuse and people *might* not have as much respect for the art of beekeeping by taking shortcuts? Please read the Flowhive FAQ I live inside a New York state park and work with developmentally disabled adults , so these will work out well on several fronts. However, this “gimmick” will promote and increase the number of hobby beekeepers. It’s like an extracted comb, but made of plastic like the common Langstroth foundations. The difference is in the Honey Harvesting method. Good luck extracting honey from that. Mostly, I have met opposition, fear of bees, roadblocks and lip service in my endeavour to do what I believe is beneficial for both us and the bees. “But just because no disturbance can be viewed by the naked eye doesn’t mean the bees aren’t being disturbed. Note- I have been keeping bees for 5 years, and just this May finally got a super full of honey. Admittedly I have limited experience, but I am learning and that means keeping an open mind. Using a system that allows you to harvest without harming the bees doesn’t remove you from that relationship. That means less insulation in my mind, and In the horrible heat of summer here in the low desert, that is a big problem. You still have to clean the box once in awhile, so you still get the pleasure of smoking, suiting up, and maybe getting stung. The bees then continue storing, having not yet filed the hive and created swarm pressure. The real innovation is the moving part: it splits and breaks internally, producing a channel to the bottom. Stop telling everyone If you are here to just spur debate why not go troll some where else… I have posted my one comment way above working with bees and experience, that i would call a contribution than just spouting off conjecture of your “TAKE” as i will put it. The windows are secure, so there are no worries about cold air or moisture getting in. You can expect to spend 1-3 hours putting this together, depending on your skill level. No disrespect as a person, I would prefere to give constructive guidence here. commercial beekeepers to take honey – such things as bee-blowers result Why don’t vegans eat honey? For those who think the product is a gimmick, I would gladly invite you to my . All I can tell you is I was able to check my honey one day, then come back and harvest with the family the next without suits. My extractor cost me $240 delivered on eBay. People are free to think what they want and they can justify their purchase. Only the SUPER is different, the BROOD BOX is a standard old fashioned Langstroth box with all the needs of normal beekeeoing. Individual frames can be selected after inspection by actuators. Try killing a fly, would it stand still and let you do it, if it could? The FlowHive Brood Box is a Standard Langstroth wax design. One commentator mentions that there is only critique, but no practical solutions. The Flow Hive wood seems to be a bit thinner than the pine that most of our Langstroth Hives are made of. I have seen bees set up shop even in old tires ! Which fortunately does not seem to affect the small native stingless-bees. The energy and time it takes to microwave a meal is significantly less than making a meal from scratch. . The viral-ity of this fundraising campaign was astounding. Honey that has been harvested with a moisture content above 20 percent and isn’t capped is considered unripe and may ferment. If anything, it will help increase the funds in their bank accounts. Using a FlowHive still requires normal beekeeping skills. I’ve seen the videos on YouTube and I immediately become interested in beekeeping. There is nothing lucididic about human bees are controlled, it’s just like a hive with energy of the masses on tap, the honey may be free, but this invention is open to abuse by potential thieves or greedy owners who would take all of the honey like taxes from government and let the bees go without, I think it’s a bad idea period, gimmicky and lazy. These will be the same regardless what method of housing your bees you go for. Even if you ask you will not know for sure. Unfortunately humanity has and never will behave in such a fashion. This hive is revolutonary and no it may not be 100% natural but its a step forward, whereas your article is two steps back. please stop griping and living a miserable existence. We produce honey here in the Southeast, São Paulo and Minas Minas, in the conventional way, like any bee keeper, with the exception of chinesese and Japanese, who are concerned more with the final product. The beekeeper ‘tunes in’ to bees as he/she goes into their ‘sacred place’. I can certainly appreciate purist sentiment, but this level of negativity doesn’t seem rational. Bet Mr Langhstroth heard the same comments. interested in ME T8332340.ZFX too , here’s a. Symptoms of aspartame poisoning include: unconsciousness, headaches, fatigue, dizziness, nausea, palpitation, weight gain, irritability, anxiety, memory loss, blurry vision, fainting, joint pains, depression, infertility, hearing loss and more. I had initially reviewed the Flow Hive on my website with great enthusiasm. As for animal husbandry, beekeeping for honey is already animal husbandry isn’t it? Why are people going back to organic food . It seems to be a regurgitation of a Luddite argument against looms and mills. You say your fruit production is down? I have infinite hope that mankind will quit poisoning themselves and the other creatures of our world. E951 – Aspartame – A GMO product which can cause seriously negative impact on your body. Cedar doesn’t give us that. Yep, all our cow milk comes the traditional way from milkmaids with big hands ???? I think this new product should be given time to prove it’s worth or lack there of. Who inspects that? Well many Beekeepers already use plastic comb in their frames to reduce cost and time spent on frame construction and reconstruction. ha! My own club has gained many dozen new beekeepers with FlowHives. When I am happy the brood box is strong and a supply of flowers available then my little workers get access to the Super or Top Box be it a FlowHive or Langstroth. ruthless, not cruel cruelty (feeling pleasure inflicting pain) is a typical human trait…. I would of course welcome responses/comments from anyone, as anyone would probably have more knowledge and experience than I do. – Jake, Article about same (as is frequent in internet articles, it is UNDATED): the condescension in this article is palpable and gross. They will learn that taking too much from the bees will only hurt their colonies in the long run, but when they do harvest the yearly harvest, then if there is a tool that can make part of that job easier and safer for the bees and beekeeper, then fantastic. Its about the same level of communion I have with the cattle on my farm. We need more gimmicks like this. I personally bought one and am excited to use it while continuing to interact and love my bees. Foundations with big cells for brood tend to encourage mites; foundationless frames spaced at 1 1/4 (instead of 1 3/8) encourage smaller cells, reduce varroa, and allow bees to regulate temperatures more effectively with fewer bees piled up between combs. Only a handful operate 5 – 6,000 hives. First bees don’t like building comb on plastic so it will be harder to get them to use. MIchele in Ontario Canada. This design was stolen from a man who invented it back in the 40s i believe in spain. It is a fascinating invention and it feels like someone has reinvented the wheel ! It was obvious from the beginning. I’m going to get one because I think it’s a cool idea to have bees in my back yard. I was very disappointed. Depending on your hive setup, if you have a Flow hive with a screened bottom board, rain should drain out. When the fire melts and it evaporates, then the wax passed in which it within our own bodies.” In the melting wax of the candle men once apprehended something that rises up to the heavens, something that was also within their own bodies. This isn’t as much of an issue in the summer but can keep your bees pretty quickly in the winter months. In every case, keeping your conscience dead toward the pain or other animals can’t be justified anyhow. ESPECIALLY when it’s obvious they haven’t actually tried it, and have some fundamental misunderstandings as to how it works and what motivates the people who HAVE. We did. This will allow me to open the brood to control swarming, while replacing empty brood in the Italian hive with Carniolan cells to stimulate fast build-up. Hands-off beekeeping? I think this person has completely missed the point here. I’ve had people tell me that there’s no way to tell when the honey is ready like this author, and I ask them how do they know when theirs is ready. (I think they were talking about conventional hives My bees don’t seem to mind the plastic at all, and many commercial bee keepers use plastic foundation. I hate the flow hive I keep bees in a national beehive and wouldn’t do it any other way. “I always tell beginners in my workshops, there is only one real reason to keep bees, and that is because they are fascinating. How many flow hives do you operate? I personally don’t care about getting honey from my colony, I only wanted to increase the pollinator population in my area. But from a business prospective this product looks fantastic. they are actually more inert than most wax frames that you can get, which are often full of pesticides (and depending on where you are, even the combs built by your own bees will build up toxins since you can’t control what your neighbors within a 2-mile radius are spraying). PS the well educated Beekeeping Club has also invested in a FlowHive. LOL! Because of the nature of this process, I’m sure it’s a major deterrent for many responsible, but no less time-taxed be keepers. Some wild woods are naturally very toxic if put near food. So to say i am not invested is just malarkey. @thefitquilter This just makes honey collection simpler and easier. I also know how to dig my truck out of mud and sand but apreciate a tree to use my winch to pull me out too when bogged. I don’t condemn an idea just because it isn’t the way it’s always been done. So Real Flowhive users wait patiently for capping. Bees are just little insect we use for our pleasure. To me none of your arguments made sense. Methanol, Isoprophyl). I am not crazy about the plastic foundation, and have never used it before so I will keep y’all posted. what happens to the eggs and the larva- pupa that stay on these cells? Remember the plastic is above the provided queen excluder. If you want to attack the product for legitmate concerns then do that. It’s just that the majority doesn’t care about any “others”, all they care about is filling their own pockets with more money, just like arms industries. It is well to be aware of the fact that by working mechanically we destroy what Nature has elaborated in so wonderful a way. not to mention… not all of the hives transported from the East Coast to the West coast makes it back to the East Coast, there have been thousands of hives that are burnt not making the expensive ride home! Let the fad beekeepers spend their money on this for a while. This would beat back breaking manual lifting of 1500 frames in a day ????. for the remainder of the hive. If you are really interested in helping the bees… Help educate the flowhive owners of the importance of taking care of the bees. After “communing” with the bees, they’re not saying that they hate the plastic comb. Louise Finally. All this business with queens from Survivors and natural mating does carry one thing conducive to your point: a properly-bred, carefully selected Carniolan will produce quite friendly workers; a hard-core survivor may sting quite a lot more frequently, at least until we take those out a few hundred generations to artificially select gentle strains. The only to know for sure is to host your own bees. This could lend to condensation and mold issues if you never pull this apart to clean it. I would be very interested in learning more about your hive. When you understand how a FlowHive works or better yet see one for real you will understand harvesting the honey is much more gentle with a FlowHive than Traditional methods. A priori la hausse flow hive s'adapte sur une ruche dadant,donc il te faut un essaim sur cadre dadant,le probleme c'est que l'apiculture ne se réduit pas à mettre des abeilles dans une boite,et récolter du miel dans une hausse (flow hive ou pas),d'ou la remarque de fort myers. A semi retired beekeeper is helping me and other back-yarders with our hives and this gentleman (he really is one of nature’s gentlemen) is spreading his knowledge and love of bees. Now the plastics and the removing of habit by the bee’s is something of interest, And culture around beekeeping is another important point. I agree the FlowFrame is overpriced, but most new items usually are. PLEASE educate yourself on this product. As far as collection commercialy new ideas are always a challenge. I am an environmental Scientist and have gotten into Aquaponics and organic gardening since entering into this field. At the current cost of frames, this does not support commercial setups real well. I am an avid hobby and commercial 4knowth generation beekeeper who has spent a lot of time dissecting the Flow Hive. That’s what it’s for. And that it looks like the hex is split from behind . This seemingly minor convince could open up a whole new segment of otherwise responsible bee keeping. It will create a generation of oblivious people who don’t know the delicate mechanics of the beautiful hive,” that seems specious; making harvest into a gentle process for the bees in no way eliminates your other responsibilities as a beekeeper. if even only on a small scale. Typical of persons whose arguments lack substance. At no time do just turn a tap to get honey ???? My goal in beekeeping is to have access to something better than I can get commercially. PS I kept a photolog of all my travels. Perfect for backyard beekeepers . Second, turning that crank could crush any bees working inside the cells (or any larva if a queen excluder isn’t used on the hive) so you might get more bee guts/parts in the honey. All in all I feel the design took into consideration factors to promote beekeeping by the beginners. But I guess everyone in europe was illiterate. How long will parts be available after they have stopped making them, because this turns out to be a short lived fad? Thank you for your article, I will consider everything you’ve said before I make the jump into getting a beehive. A beekeeper still has the option of using traditional frames, or even frames with starter strips, etc. The greed for maximum honey extraction combined with little or no concern for the bees food source simply illustrates why this campaign was so wildly successful. If people see a value and the economics make sense then the product will fly, if not crash. evolution of bees is something she avoids to mention though. Commercial beekeepers lose hives every year. Remember the Flowhive is ONLY the SUPER of a hive and the BROOD BOX beneath is ALL standard LANGSTROTH. However, we have to look at the bigger picture. Even though there’s a window and you can see the bees, you are clueless as to what is actually going on with the hive. You must not think that I am unable to see–even from a non-anthroposophical point of view–that modern bee keeping methods seem at first very attractive, for certainly, it makes many thing much easier. But I still thinking about whether or not to get a hive, if it would be worth it, but this post was completely moronic, either way we are honey theives, but this one is nicer to everyone for human and bee when it comes to small bee owners. Don’t care for the “be one with the bees” it is a business. The disruption of the hive issue I would side with the makers on this product. $4,000. I did not end up getting a flow hive as it seemed too static for my liking. It is a requirement Australia to have beehives a person attend a recognised course to learn about husbandry and diseases so that there is some sort of a standard. I have seen small hive beetle do terrible damage to a strong hive but by regular inspection small hive beetle and much more can be reduced to only nuisance value. This author appears to have that age-old syndrome: “Well that’s the way we’ve done it for ages, so let’s not change anything.” Is that what book printers said before the invention of movable press by Gutenberg? Buckfast deals well with tracheal mites; and any VSH line deals well with varroa. I realise you wrote this 9 months ago, but I think it pretty shabby that you went ahead with the article without publishing Flow Hive’s response. think about it!!!! . I could definitely envision many beekeepers going with this system and phasing out and trying to sell other equipment. And then chased me and stung me a couple of times to let me know they were not happy. Seeing the Flow Hive video is what actually caught my attention, piqued my interest, and started my research. Again, it amazes me the perspective or lack thereof. “How dare someone try to Designed to outlast the older cheaper hives by many years. Scratching bite getting poison sac there is no pain or red or swelling. because no vegetables ever benefited from bees and insects being ‘exploited’…, do vegetables scream when you cut them? What we do know is that bees are monumental in our survival and warrants extreme care and consideration in how we intersect with them. ???? one of those being that it’s impossible to fully check for disease via a window – though windows are great for peeking at your bees. You have to somehow manage bees. There is also Tanzanian top bar hives, Kenyan top bar hives as well as various other styles that are “top bar” and yes it was was introduced in the 60’s although it had been in use for thousands of years. or because they love to eat chickens. 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